Please provide the loss and profit of Dial a ride
| Authority | Department of Infrastructure |
|---|---|
| Date received | 2020-10-06 |
| Outcome | Some information sent but part exempt |
| Outcome date | 2020-10-26 |
| Case ID | 1503365 |
Summary
The requester asked for profit and loss data for Dial a Ride services and minibuses used for specific transport routes, but the Department of Infrastructure could not provide this due to internal budgeting policies. Instead, the authority disclosed the purchase costs and quantities of minibuses acquired during fleet replacement programs between 2017 and 2019.
Key Facts
- No vehicles were purchased solely for Patient Transport Services or Demand Responsive Transport; they are part of the general fleet replacement.
- Shared services are funded via internal budget transfers rather than commercial invoicing, making specific profit/loss data unavailable.
- Running costs for minibuses are incorporated into the operational expenditure of the entire bus fleet.
- The approximate purchase cost for a new minibus is between £50,000 and £60,000 depending on specification.
- The Department of Infrastructure provided specific purchase totals for 2017-18 and 2018-19.
Data Disclosed
- £50-60,000
- £732,516
- £345,528
- 8 x Mercedes Benz Sprinter 35 Mobility minibus
- 4 x Mercedes Benz Sprinter 45 Transfer minibus
- 2017-18
- 2018-19
- 1st April 2017
- 1st April 2019
- 17 April 2019
- 21 May 2019
- 2020-10-06
- 2020-10-26
Exemptions Cited
- Information withheld because shared services are funded by internal budget transfers, not commercial invoicing, preventing the identification of matching costs.
Original Request
Please provide the loss and profit of the Dial a ride services and a breakdown of the areas from North For clarity I will rephrase the wording to 'a breakdown of the Northern Routes on the Island'
Data Tables (9)
| 2017-18 | |
|---|---|
| 8 x Mercedes Benz Sprinter 35 Mobility minibus | |
| 4 x Mercedes Benz Sprinter 45 Transfer minibus | £732,516 |
| 2018-19 | |
|---|---|
| 8 x Mercedes Benz Sprinter 35 Mobility minibus | £345,528 |
| Location | Dropped Off | Collected |
|---|---|---|
| Martin Ward | 96 | 89 |
| Ramsey District Cottage Hospital | 175 | 113 |
| Ramsey Group Practice | 134 | 73 |
| Service | No of passengers | No of trips | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
| Villages - Andreas & Bride | 894 | 161 | Covering Andreas & Bride along with Maughold & local Ramsey runs |
| Villages 2 - Jurby | 727 | 160 | Covering Jurby & local town runs |
| Villages 3 - lunchtime cover for both services | 197 | 69 | Covering Jurby, Bride & local runs |
| Trips p/wk | Miles p/wk | Passengers carried Nov 2018 | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Service 16 | 4 | 35 | 26 |
| Service 17 | 8 | 170 | 305 |
| Service 18 | 9 | 184 | 294 |
| Service 19 | 17 | 356 | 294 |
| Service 20 | 16 | 218 | 247 |
| connectVILLAGES | Total Number of Passengers | Concessions | Cash Fares | Prepaid Tickets | Income from Fares |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| December 2018 | 394 | 160 | 165 | 69 | £268.00 |
| January 2019 | 788 | 395 | 319 | 74 | £570.70 |
| February 2019 | 765 | 392 | 318 | 55 | £505.30 |
| March 2019 | 699 | 351 | 304 | 44 | £527.70 |
| April 2019 | 1042 | 511 | 421 | 110 | £727.00 |
| May 2019 | 1557 | 756 | 560 | 241 | £921.30 |
| June 2019 | 1452 | 738 | 485 | 229 | £806.70 |
| July 2019 | 1674 | 796 | 635 | 243 | £1,016.30 |
| August 2019 | 1722 | 807 | 690 | 225 | £1,104.00 |
| September 2019 | 1621 | 788 | 514 | 319 | £839.20 |
| October 2019 | 1821 | 1113 | 501 | 207 | £1,039.00 |
| November 2019 | 1641 | 1071 | 445 | 125 | £814.00 |
| Month | No of pax | Total revenue £ | Month | No of pax | Total revenue £ | % Pax difference | % Revenue difference |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dec 2017 | 6645 | 2645.60 | Dec 2018 | 7362 | 2725.40 | 10.79 | 3.02 |
| Jan 2018 | 7817 | 2693.50 | Jan 2019 | 9322 | 2924.50 | 19.25 | 8.58 |
| Feb 2018 | 6398 | 2473.60 | Feb 2019 | 7621 | 2612.70 | 19.12 | 5.62 |
| Mar 2018 | 8628 | 2908.10 | Mar 2019 | 9747 | 2737.20 | 12.97 | -5.88 |
| Apr 2018 | 5965 | 2628.80 | Apr 2019 | 7100 | 2844.80 | 19.03 | 8.22 |
| May 2018 | 8847 | 2772.50 | May 2019 | 8282 | 2941.80 | -6.39 | 6.11 |
| Jun 2018 | 7866 | 3423.00 | Jun 2019 | 8022 | 3011.50 | 1.98 | -12.02 |
| Jul 2018 | 6404 | 3178.90 | Jul 2019 | 6238 | 2842.60 | -2.59 | -10.58 |
| Aug 2018 | 4126 | 3370.40 | Aug 2019 | 4574 | 3353.70 | 10.86 | -0.50 |
| Sep 2018 | 9355 | 2970.90 | Sep 2019 | 8813 | 2231.50 | -5.79 | -24.89 |
| Oct 2018 | 9638 | 2805.80 | Oct 2019 | 8632 | 2279.20 | -10.44 | -18.77 |
| Nov 2018 | 9330 | 2766.80 | Nov 2019 | 8398 | 2231.60 | -9.99 | -19.34 |
| During the current period of uncertainty when many of us are working from home and |
| social distancing, searching for information, particularly in hard copy files, liaising with |
| colleagues and finalising responses is very challenging. We ask that you bear with us |
| please. While we will always aim to meet the statutory standard processing period of |
| 20 working days this has not been possible in this case, for which we apologise. |
| In addition, many of your questions have been answered in previous FOI requests. |
| Therefore, in order to ensure you obtain as much information as we can currently |
| provide, we have attached copies of all the previous request responses relating to the |
| Connect Ports and Connect Villages services. We would ask that you review these |
| and, if you still have unanswered questions, that you submit a new, narrower FOI |
| request, at which time we will attempt to obtain the specific information for you. |
| Thank you for your patience and understanding. |
Full Response Text
• Purchase - an approximate purchase cost per new minibus is £50-60,000 depending on
specification but it should be borne in mind that we have at least 5 manufacturers of
minibuses and that some vehicles were purchased some years ago.
• Income – the funding of minibuses is largely from internal budgets. Government policy is
that shared services are funded by the transfer of budgets, not by the issuing of invoices.
Should you wish us to try to identify the income from commercial activities that may be
possible but we would not, for the reasons given above, be able to identify the matching
costs.
Please quote the reference number 735665 in any future communications.
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I will now close your request as of this date.
Yours sincerely
Department of Infrastructure Sea Terminal Building, Douglas, Isle of Man, IM1 2RF
Contact: FOI Response Team Telephone: (01624) 686785 Email: dpo-doi@gov.im
Our ref: 799065 21 May 2019
Dear ###
We write further to your request which was received on 17 April 2019 and which states (sic):
"Since 1st April 2017 to 1st April 2019 how much money has the DOI spent on minibuses? Clarification: I would only specifically like to know the amount of money spent (cost) on purchasing minibuses that are used for the "Connect Ports" and "Connect Villages" and the patient transfer services to/from Nobles Hospital that were originally done by Red Cross and the Island private sector taxi/private hire service providers. Ideally also I would like to know how many mini-buses were bought for these purposes also."
No vehicles have been purchased for the sole purpose of Patient Transport Services
(PTS) or Demand Responsive Transport (Connect Ports/Villages).
However, we are happy to supply below the purchase costs of minibuses which have
been bought as part of our normal programme of fleet replacement during the time
period you have stipulated.
It is important to note that minibuses are used for services other than those named in
your request and, for that reason, all running costs associated with minibuses are
incorporated in the operational expenditure of the entire bus fleet.
2017-18
8 x Mercedes Benz Sprinter 35 Mobility minibus
4 x Mercedes Benz Sprinter 45 Transfer minibus
£732,516
2018-19
8 x Mercedes Benz Sprinter 35 Mobility minibus
£345,528
Please quote the reference number 799065 in any future communications.
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I will now close your request as of this date.
Yours sincerely
FOI Response Team
Department of Infrastructure Sea Terminal Building, Douglas. IM1 2RF
Contact: FOI Response Team Telephone: (01624) 686785 Email: DPO-DOI@gov.im
Our ref: 866265 19 July 2019
Dear ###
We write further to your request which was received on 26 June 2019 and which states:
"How many times has the Connect Villages been booked in the north of the island
since the service began? How many times has ConnectPorts been booked to firstly the
airport? And secondly the sea terminal?
How many drivers does Bus Vannin employ on a zero hour contract for the Connect
minibuses? How many drivers does Bus Vannin employ on a full time basis who work
on the Connect minibuses?
How many people using the services have used a free bus pass since Connect services
were launched?"
There have been 6,697 journeys taken on our connectVILLAGES service from its
inception in December last year up until the end of June 2019. It is possible that
multiple journeys are made all under one booking however, we do not have the facility
to collate our figures in this way.
There have been 622 passengers who have booked connectPORTS to the airport since
our service began last October, to the end of June 2019. As above, it is possible that
multiple journeys are made under one booking. As our “connectPORTS” service has
not yet been offered to the sea terminal, the number of bookings is zero.
We have 5 members of staff that operate our connectVILLAGES and connectPORTS
service on a regular basis with a further 3 other zero hour drivers who help out as
required. Our staff work across Bus Vannin services so there are no specific staff on
full time contracts working on our connectVILLAGES or connectPORTS services only.
3,515 ‘free’ passes have been used on our connectVILLAGES service from its inception
in December last year up until the end of June 2019.
Please quote the reference number 866265 in any future communications.
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FOI Response Team
Department of Infrastructure Sea Terminal Building, Douglas, Isle of Man, IM1 2RF
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Our ref: 946173 11 September 2019
Dear ###
We write further to your request which was received on 3 September 2019 and which states (numbered for ease of reference):
"1. Please can you provide information since the inception of the Village Connect service of how many users have obtained transport to the Ramsey Group Practice and/or Ramsey Cottage Hospital as well as how many users have obtained transport from the Ramsey Group Practice and/or Ramsey Cottage Hospital? 2. Also please can you advise if there is an internal policy regarding the pick up of individuals from the Ramsey Group Practice and/or Ramsey Cottage Hospital where they do not have a definitive time for collection? if there is a policy please supply it. Thanks"
1. The table below shows the number of users transported between the locations in your request, since ConnectVILLAGES was launched. Location Dropped Off Collected Martin Ward 96 89 Ramsey District Cottage Hospital 175 113 Ramsey Group Practice 134 73 2. There is no specific policy for unarranged pickups other than that when a passenger tells us they are ready we will get a bus to them as quickly as possible. This is no different for these locations to anywhere else covered by the service.
Please quote the reference number 946173 in any future communications.
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Department of Infrastructure Sea Terminal Building, Douglas, Isle of Man, IM1 2RF
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Our ref: 1041661 2 December 2019
Dear ###
We write further to your request which was received on 11 November 2019 and which states (sic):
"How many people are employed on the bus services including the dial,a bus are employed on zero hour contracts? What rate of pay per hour is paid"
The Department has the following number of zero contract employees in bus services: • Minibus section - 96 staff - £10.54 per hour (+8% holiday pay) • Big buses - 83 staff - variable rate of pay: o New pay scale £11.19-£12.51 (+8% holiday pay) o Old pay scale £14.13 Monday-Friday, £20.03 weekends (+8% holiday pay)
Please quote the reference number 1041661 in any future communications.
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